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Is Asking For Their Alternative To Keep Health Care Costs Down The Easiest Way To Confuse And Anger A Con?

Wednesday, December 2, 2009, 12:48
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13 Responses to “Is Asking For Their Alternative To Keep Health Care Costs Down The Easiest Way To Confuse And Anger A Con?”

  1. M.E. said on Wednesday, December 2, 2009, 15:06

    Most Republican politicians choke a little when asked what they would do to keep health-care costs down.
    The few suggestions I’ve heard from Republican politicians are quite ineffective.

  2. Joe S said on Wednesday, December 2, 2009, 20:59

    “Why are fiscal conservatives against keeping costs down?”
    Straw man, and you know it! At the danger of following your over-generalization, most fiscal conservatives probably oppose the proposed reforms because they believe that they will fail to keep costs down.
    I doubt that I speak for more than a minority of fiscal conservatives, but I believe that our problems are due mostly to prior political management of health care. For instance, the justly condemned HMO model was the result of 1970’s federal government reform. Did you know that?
    Have you accounted for World War II wage controls that encouraged socialization of health care costs at the company level? Insurance companies long resisted medical insurance because they considered it to not be insurable. Eventually, they had to cave as lobbies worked Congress over to enable their plans. Yet few even within the insurance industry now consider that medical insurance is not insurance at all. It is socialism [1] [2].
    Do you consider the impact of pharmaceutical lobbies on Congress? Do you really think that health industry lobbyists are spending millions every day just to ask Congress to leave them alone? Do you think that maybe they are deriving benefits out of their efforts?
    In short, my alternative would be to restore the market provision of medical care. We need to fundamentally challenge the role of government in health care [3]. Whatever you think of allowing a market to form around health care, consider this. The one option that politicians are unlikely to consider is whether their past efforts have been responsible for the problems. They have incentive to expand their influence, both for their own benefit and for the benefit of the special interests that sponsor them. All political reform is likely to attempt to expand political control over society if left to its own devices. If political management is actually the cause of our problems, as I assert, we are going completely down the wrong path.

  3. Crusader said on Wednesday, December 2, 2009, 21:43

    The best plan is still the free market. Get the government ALL the way out of health care excepting some reform of tort laws and health care costs will drop. EVERY ‘reform’ the government has instituted in the health care industry has already served to decrease competition and reduce availability. Anyone who know basic economics will know that reducing the supply of a product (which is what health care really is) will drive up demand and cost. If we rebalance the supply/demand curve of health care prices WILL drop.

  4. martinma said on Thursday, December 3, 2009, 2:22

    Here are some conservative ideas for you:
    1. Use stimulus money to build free clinics in all congressional districts, instead of wasting it on studying pig odor or funding theaters.
    2. Allow purchase of health insurance across state lines.
    3. Cut out wasteful spending in the government, lower politicians’ wages and benefits, make lobbying illegal, and cut out earmarks.
    4. Expand Medicaid and Medicare to cover more people and cover them more effectively.
    5. Treat only emergency medical for illegal aliens and then send them back to their country of origin.
    6. Don’t worry about the uninsured who have plenty of money but have chosen not to insure themselves.
    7. Tort reform.
    8. Require insurance companies to cover preexisting conditions. Their profit margins can afford to take a little hit.
    9. Replace income taxes with a flat national sales tax.

  5. TyranusX said on Thursday, December 3, 2009, 9:15

    The bills purposed DO NOTHING to address the cost of health care!!
    That is what they are yelling about!!
    In every Socialized Medicine country , there is tort reform involved afterall you can’t well sue the government. This would be the biggest cost savings of anything , yet its not even mentioned by dems, why? Lawyers!
    C.S : the typical doctor has a bill for mailpractice insurance of 250K per year , some are even much higher. Because of this “threat” all Drs. pratice defensive medicine , they request more tests and treatments that are nessecary so they won’t get sued for not doing it. Just ask any doctor

  6. Matt W said on Thursday, December 3, 2009, 15:59

    Read the GOP plan if you’re curious.
    I doubt that creating another massive, bureaucratic government entity at the cost of trillions will do much to bring costs down. Typically government spends three dollars to do what the private sector can do with just one.
    Have you stopped to think of whether or not the Obama plan is the best thing for health care? Or do you just support it because you’re that partisan?

  7. justgood said on Thursday, December 3, 2009, 17:09

    No, pretty easy yes but I know at least one easier way. Telling them the “birther” expert they just invoked used to be and is still a 911 truther who believes Bush and Cheney “blew up the towers”. The hardcore Bush apologists never totally recover from the shock while they seek for new and improved arguments to continue the nonsense

  8. as.erwin said on Thursday, December 3, 2009, 22:14

    Here is one (of about 12 that I have right here in front of me)
    Email me if you want more.

  9. Taxme said on Friday, December 4, 2009, 1:01

    Offer the same coverage as the Congress gets and pay for it by issueing bonds, profits can be paid back to the bond holders. This would free the tax payer from bearing the burden.

  10. Sgt Red said on Friday, December 4, 2009, 5:39

    Tort Reform and Illegal Aliens. See that was easy

  11. Anonymous said on Friday, December 4, 2009, 8:38

    Simple: Tort reform. Next!

  12. Think about it said on Friday, December 4, 2009, 13:07

    No, electing a black president is…lol

  13. Thrasher said on Friday, December 4, 2009, 15:59

    It would weaken their portfolio! Who want’s to loose money?

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